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The Greek Myths (1993)

The Greek Myths (1993)

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0140171991 (ISBN13: 9780140171990)
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Opera affatto didascalica o pedante, è corredata da note preziose che uniscono la mitologia greca a quella micenea ed aria.Pur essendo improntata a una ormai superata concezione antropologica e storico-religiosa di un primevo matriarcato, la classifico tra gli imperdibili perchè narra in toto la mitologia dell'Ellade, la quale, a sua volta, altro non è che la trasposizione, onirica e quindi immaginifica, delle paure, dei desideri e delle esigenze del nostro inconscio. Feedback da A. Non è che all'inizio volevi dire "niente affatto"? Ubmr ha detto il Mar 22, 2010 Nu, affatto e basta. Può stare anche da solo :-) charta ha detto il Mar 22, 2010 Avevo proprio quella edizione, chissà dove è finita. Segnata nel taccuino per ricomprarla... josé daniel fierro ha detto il May 21, 2010 Sui miti greci leggo di tutto, dall'età di undici anni! Maria Francesca: anche su Goodreads senza capirne nulla! ha detto il Jun 23, 2011 Affatto vuol dire "del tutto"...o sbaglio ? Roberto Fiorili ha detto il Jan 16, 2012 @Roberto Fiorilli, dipende... Può voler dire "del tutto" o il suo contrario: "per niente". Dicono sia la versione colta di niente affatto, io la preferisco comunque a quest'ultimo ;-) charta ha detto il Jan 16, 2012 Credo che nessuna parola in nessuna lingua possa/debba esprimere un concetto ma anche, veltronianamente, il suo contrario. Casomai la versione colta, direi unica, dell' utilizzo di questa parola è (vedi sotto) come rafforzativa; è "volgare" (nel senso di non colto), se non sbagliato, l'utilizzo in forma negativa, perché implica l'accettazione nel tempo di un errore di interpretazione, da parte di chi colto non è, di una espressione, al contrario, colta, in combinazione con una negazione sottintesa. In poche parole credo sia accettabile, solo per prassi, nel parlato, e in una sola forma; ma credo si possa altresì concludere che sia sbagliato nello scritto. «Purtroppo le espressioni formulari divengono gettoni non più analizzati dal parlante: penso, per esempio, all’avverbio affatto, probabilmente risalente a una locuzione del latino parlato (ad factum) e significante “interamente, del tutto”, come anche oggi nell’espressione colta: “L’onestissimo Giovanni è affatto privo di doppiezza”. Però questo avverbio, usato spesso come rafforzativo in frasi negative (“non la penso affatto come te”, “non ho affatto voglia di impegnarmi”), ha preso, nell’uso corrente, il significato contrario di “per nulla”, specie nelle risposte a domande che chiedono un sì o un no: “Hai freddo?” “Affatto”; il quale affatto evidentemente sottintende un niente (niente affatto) e assume su di sé il senso della parola sottintesa». Giovanni Nencioni Roberto Fiorili ha detto il Mar 4, 2012 Ti ringrazio della citazione e della precisazione ma poiché è tipica di ogni lingua viva la trasformazione, incluso quella semantica, possono verificarsi anche ambivalenze, a prescindere dal "veltronismo", espressione, questa invece, destinata a soccombere nel breve tempo per la sua natura contingente e aleatoria. Mi è chiara la distinzione fra "volgarismo" e "cultismo", epperò mi permetto di definire colto un uso consapevole di questo termine nell'accezione negativa, accezione ormai attestata anche nei dizionari (cfr. Devoto-Oli, attualmente curato da Luca Serianni), laddove la maggior parte dei parlanti, legata alla grammatica di base insegnata a scuola, continua a percepirlo come errore. P.S. Affatto deriva dall'italiano "a fatto", e risale al 1274 ;-)

There are several pros and cons to this book. Pros: It’s very comprehensive in that it covers just about all the Greek mythology.Cons: It’s very focused towards the academic. Each myth is told a break neck speed with a bare bones of story followed by a list or sources and then a list of how the myth came to be with interpretations of historical events/persons basically and entomology. This would be an invaluable tool to an academic but as some one who only wanted to read and enjoy the stories I skipped all that and consequently probably only read half the near 750 pages. Also, in order to be academic each character is given their lineage which in a cast of thousands becomes tiresome. Also each possible source is given a brief mention which becomes again, tiresome. For example Graves might write a couple of paragraphs describing how a character murdered a king with a spear, married his wife and begat several children. He then has a paragraph where he adds “others say”, or “it’s said elsewhere” that it was in fact the named character that killed the king or if he did it was with a bow and arrow, or that it was the kings wife who killed him and then killed the named character and was then turned into an olive tree as punishment by the Gods. Graves should be confident enough in his research/translations to just present the story as he believes it unfolded.All in all I wish the stories could have been more entertainingly told with some effort towards dialogue etc but that would mean the book would probably be 3000+ pages! As I said previously with this being aimed at the academic I guess it’s not quite the book for those who just want to enjoy the highly entertaining stories that mythology represents.

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The Folio Society published this rather splendid two volume book of The Greek Myths by Robert Graves in 1996. I purchased it then but I basically only looked at it from time to time when I wanted to know about certain myths or gods, and thus there was always something that I could look up which would give me pleasure.This is not a book for the faint-hearted as, well to me anyway, it is an excellent reference book that I will pick up from time to time and browse through it or look for further information. I don’t think that I could actually have sat down and read this from cover to cover as there is too much factual information and some of the names can be quite confusing.Also there were certain facts that I had in my head that I certainly proved to be wrong here. Little things I know but I always thought that it was Pandora’s box and not the jar and I had never even heard of The Sprites until I arrived at this part of the book. Also the Minotaur, well my own interpretation of that was completely wrong.But when you think about the Greek Myths, it wasn’t until I went through this introduction that I found out the following:The Romans, who annexed Greece in the second century BC, modified the Olympian religion to include their own local gods and practices, but otherwise simply took Greek stories over lock, stock and barrel. Sometimes names were changed (as when Aphrodite became Venus or Odysseus Ulysses); sometimes they were actually spelled differently (as when Asclepius became Aesculapius); sometimes no changes at all were made, so that stories with a particular Green location (such as the spring of Hippocrene near Thebes, created when the winged horse Pegasus stamped his hoof on a rock) were accepted quite happily by people who had never otherwise heard of, or seen, the originals.”So really all one can do about this rather complicated book as I’ve done is to concentrate on for example, Pandora, as she fascinates me, to begin with and find out who she’s related to (which in itself is like being on an odyssey) and working out from there as if I were a spider on the web awaiting my next “kill”.The Greek God Hermes (Mercury to the Romans and the son of Zeus), I have a particular fondness for. Many years ago I was in a garden centre in England and I saw this lovely little bronze statue of Mercury. I paid a lot more for it than I should have done but I knew that a pay cheque was around the corner and now it sits in my lounge. Perhaps it should be in the garden but I like to be reminded of it. So Mercury, sorry Hermes, I stand corrected. Strange really but Hermes is one of my favourite perfumes.My only fault with this book lies with the two volumes, the index is at the end of the second one which is fair enough but it is still annoying when searching for an individual and then finding that it spans the two books.This is a delightful book and will give me pleasure for many years. So try it, if you haven’t already. You may like it.
—Lynne King

Robert Graves “The Greek Myths” is a wonderful resource for learning about the myths of ancient Greece. Originally published in 1955, it was updated for the last time in 1960. There are two volumes, but they are often available in a single book, which makes it easier for the reader to handle. Graves does a wonderful job of making the myths easy to read and understand, and discusses the variations which often occurred in the myths. His interpretation of the myths is a bit subjective, so the reader needs to treat that aspect as such.The volumes can be used in different ways. One of the more useful ways is as a reference for learning about references to Greek Mythology. The table of contents provides 171 different myth titles to choose from, but if that doesn’t help you find a particular reference, the index at the end of the second volume will help you locate the relevant myths that touch upon a particular name or subject.A second way to use the book is to simply browse until you find a myth that interests you and spend some time reading about it and its variations. Each myth is explained in clear English and divided into paragraphs relating to each of the ancient Greek works which mention the myths. These ancient references are then listed which easily provides the reader the information they need to do further investigation. Lastly, additional notes are included which help to better understand the myths and put them into an historical perspective, though again this is not necessarily factual as much as it is supposition on the part of Graves. Another way to use this book is to simply read it to gain an overall understanding of Greek myths. I would say this book doesn’t work as well in this way as it does in the prior ways. The myths are intentionally split apart to better focus on the individual parts and so it doesn’t flow. In addition, many of the myths have multiple versions and Graves discusses many of these variations which also interfere with treating this book like a story book. In addition the links to references and the material added to better understand the myths which are so useful for treating this as a reference, definitely get in the way of telling the story. All that being said, you can still use the book in this way, it is just not the optimum format and there may be better books out there for this purpose.I have found this book to be very useful over the years. It is very helpful when doing research, but also good for a diversion when one wants to look at one particular myth. Some may not care for Graves personal input on the myths, but I think it is a useful perspective even if one doesn’t agree with his conclusions. Though not perfect, this book still rates five stars in my opinion.
—Dave

1.Kodansya English Library2.5/11 = 60 minutes3. 7 words summary: Chaos - Night - Gaia - Uranus - make - nature - monstrous4.Q: Do you believe that gods are exist? Why or Why not?A: I believe that gods are exist because sometimes things go well or bad. Also I and my family go to the shurine in the New Year's Day and pray something to the gods.5. Reading this book is so interesting! There are some mysterious stories!2.5/17 = 45 minutes, 5/20 = 20 minutes3. 7 words summary: Prometheus - Zeus - fire - goshawk - liver - brother - Pandora4. Q: Have you ever been deceived by appearance? How?A: Yes, I have. When I saw the cake, I thought it was good, but I was not good at whippeed cram. 5.When I read the story of Prometheus and Pandora, I thought that if I was Epimetheus, I did not get the gift from Zeus. I am a person who is suspicious.
—Erika Maruo

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